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Burgatory Guy and more arson

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:35 pm
by joele
I didn't want to keep this going in Israel thread as looks like it has nothing to do with Israel/Palestine at all (at least in the case of the first fire)..

So the guy they charged (well one of the two) for burning down the burgertory store in Caulfield was also charged with at least one of the Melbourne Tobacco War fires in Bendigo. So what is the connection? and why are they now firebombing Hash's home?

Hash is saying the same thing as last time, implying it is pro Israel people again, though we know he incorrectly claimed the same about the restaurant. Guess we find out in a few months if they catch the guy who did it.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 5flq6.html

Re: Burgatory Guy and more arson

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:46 pm
by Irrev-Black
joele wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:35 pm I didn't want to keep this going in Israel thread as looks like it has nothing to do with Israel/Palestine at all (at least in the case of the first fire)..

So the guy they charged (well one of the two) for burning down the burgertory store in Caulfield was also charged with at least one of the Melbourne Tobacco Wars fires in Bendigo. So what is the connection? and why are they now firebombing Hash's home?

Hash is saying the same thing as last time, implying it is pro Israel people again, though we know he incorrect claimed the same about the restaurant. Guess we find out in a few months if they catch the guy who did it.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 5flq6.html
Ockham says it's someone else in the marginal baccy trade.

Re: Burgatory Guy and more arson

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:48 pm
by joele
Irrev-Black wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:46 pm Ockham says it's someone else in the marginal baccy trade.
Yeah my first thought was that maybe he was selling chop chop under the counter in his restaurant, but I don't think that fits with them now attacking his home.. Clearly a bigger story here than "hate crimes" though..

Re: Burgatory Guy and more arson

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:14 pm
by Irrev-Black
joele wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:48 pm
Irrev-Black wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:46 pm Ockham says it's someone else in the marginal baccy trade.
Yeah my first thought was that maybe he was selling chop chop under the counter in his restaurant, but I don't think that fits with them now attacking his home.. Clearly a bigger story here than "hate crimes" though..
Protection racket would fit.

Re: Burgatory Guy and more arson

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 12:11 pm
by Irrev-Black
Irrev-Black wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:14 pm
joele wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:48 pm
Irrev-Black wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:46 pm Ockham says it's someone else in the marginal baccy trade.
Yeah my first thought was that maybe he was selling chop chop under the counter in his restaurant, but I don't think that fits with them now attacking his home.. Clearly a bigger story here than "hate crimes" though..
Protection racket would fit.
Melbourne's had more baccy shops, takeaways, and milk bars torched. Definitely something other than hatred for a sector of the community (unless "shop-owners" counts).

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nation ... 5je3d.html

NB:
Link may give you the paywall thing.

Re: Burgatory Guy and more arson

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 2:16 pm
by joele
Irrev-Black wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 12:11 pm Melbourne's had more baccy shops, takeaways, and milk bars torched. Definitely something other than hatred for a sector of the community (unless "shop-owners" counts).
Ohh there have been so many, in Bendigo and Melbourne. They claimed a few months ago the baccy wars were over, but the arsons haven't stopped.

Poor government probably very confused as to why prohibition would increase gang wars/crime. Not like there is a long history of that happening .. ohh wait ... mmmm ..

Re: Burgatory Guy and more arson

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 6:11 pm
by Irrev-Black
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nation ... 5jh2a.html

May be paywalled, but here's the skinny:
Landlords warned by police about leasing stores to tobacconists in Victoria

Police will warn commercial landlords in the coming weeks about the risk of leasing their shops to tobacconists.
They tend to light up.

Re: Burgatory Guy and more arson

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 8:30 pm
by pipbarber
Irrev-Black wrote: Mon May 27, 2024 6:11 pm https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nation ... 5jh2a.html

May be paywalled, but here's the skinny:
Landlords warned by police about leasing stores to tobacconists in Victoria

Police will warn commercial landlords in the coming weeks about the risk of leasing their shops to tobacconists.
They tend to light up.
My local cheap tobacco guy operates out of a gift shop. I know of a cafe that also sells it openly. Gov seems to want to play whack-a-mole, which makes marketing sense, look very busy all time, achieve absolutely nothing, but look busy doing it.

Tax free tobacco has never, in my lifetime, been more readily and easily available than it is now. Good job .gov.au

Re: Burgatory Guy and more arson

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 10:14 am
by joele
Another two overnight..
In short: Tobacco stores in Coburg and Footscray have been the target of arson attacks early this morning.
There have been more than 60 fires in stores, restaurants and reception centres linked to the illegal tobacco war between bike and organised crime gangs.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-07/ ... /103949224

Re: Burgatory Guy and more arson

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 11:04 am
by Irrev-Black
Also arson-related: A second person has been charged over the Friendlyjordies home arson attack.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... ome-ntwnfb