Is free will logical?
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Re: Is free will logical?
Let's start with "Is it even there?".
Greedy fuckers cannot self-regulate.
Prove me wrong.
Prove me wrong.
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Re: Is free will logical?
You would have to define it first.. i.e. What do YOU mean when you say "free will"?
That is kind of my problem with compatibilism, they (re)define free will in a way so that it can be real alongside determinism (i.e. compatible), but it is not what is generally meant by "free will" historically or by many of people today (that are for and against it).
That is kind of my problem with compatibilism, they (re)define free will in a way so that it can be real alongside determinism (i.e. compatible), but it is not what is generally meant by "free will" historically or by many of people today (that are for and against it).
"Now this is the command: Do to the doer to make him do." - The Eloquent Peasant (2040–1650 BCE)
“Religion the protector of the well fed and consoler of the hungry.” - Mikhail Bakunin
“Religion the protector of the well fed and consoler of the hungry.” - Mikhail Bakunin
Re: Is free will logical?
I just read (in the wiki entry on compatabilism ):joele wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:20 pm You would have to define it first.. i.e. What do YOU mean when you say "free will"?
That is kind of my problem with compatibilism, they (re)define free will in a way so that it can be real alongside determinism (i.e. compatible), but it is not what is generally meant by "free will" historically or by many of people today (that are for and against it).
If free will is an "experience", or perhaps a feeling, maybe it's more akin to concepts like love, where we are quite comfortable with thinking about it in terms of a poetic or beautiful concept as we experience it subjectively, while also examining the physiological traits, like the state of the brain and the endocrine system, or the evolutionary benefits arising from it and the genes associated with it.As Steven Weinberg puts it: "I would say that free will is nothing but our conscious experience of deciding what to do
I can feel it