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stevebrooks wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:22 pm Well, looks like Trump win, this is bad, very bad, it's a miracle now for Harris to win, and I don't believe in miracles.

In the end though I don't think it is Trump we need be worried about, he's gone down so much over the last week months I don't think he will be there long, it's the people he will surround himself with...like Musk, they're the real danger.

And JD Vance...

I reckon it's the movement that's the worry. It's Christian nationalism, it's the potential for full blown fascism. But the most devastating aspect, as Stylo mentioned, is the end of any pretense to care about climate change, ecological protection and non human life (and a good proportion of human life). That will impact the whole world.

It's too early to say if democracy has ended in the US. We won't know that for at least 2 years, at the mid-terms, but it would be prudent to monitor developments in that direction.

As for the neo-liberal loving Dems, fuck them! Seriously, fuck the democrats for not pushing Bernie's agenda 8 years ago. Fuck them for not openly rejecting neoliberal economic theory. They must share the blame. I don't mean that on an individual level, Kamala did well, she did her best but she was pushing an ideology that just fucks people over, it doesn't work anymore. I hope albo is watching and the ALP machine is taking some lessons from this...but i fucking doubt it.

Be lucky if Trump makes it to the inauguration, they will be crowning Vance the King, and all those people who voted for abortion in states where there were polls on it, but voted for Republicans for power, they are going to have their vote ignored because it will be made a Federal abortion ban, and Federal law, where the two conflict, overrides state law! You Fucking Idiots!

I slept like shit last night. That giant orange head was tormenting my mind. Welcome to 1933 was the first thing i thought this morning. Well, we'll see.

Upon reflection, polling is henceforth to be ignored, as are youtube pundits. The betting markets were actually accurate, that may have been by chance but this is not an outlier case, it's happened a lot. Celebrity endorsements are useless.

Compared to Trump, Dutton suddenly looks like a totally reasonable guy, even centrist. I'm feeling unwell about our next election. I think we're entering a very right wing phase and I know i sound like a broken record but you can't run on a more of the same platform and expect to win against a party running on identity or pseudo (or real) authoritarianism or anything that promises something different and the left adjacent parties have nothing different to offer, at least atm.

Sorry, just unloading my anger....

Yeap, the result is like a punch in the guts. I cannot fucking believe it. America is truly broken. My heart goes out to those who voted blue and are going to have to live with the consequences.

nibble wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:31 am Yeap, the result is like a punch in the guts. I cannot fucking believe it. America is truly broken. My heart goes out to those who voted blue and are going to have to live with the consequences.

The consequences are already here, Florida had a poll on abortion rights along with the election, 57% of voters voted yes for abortion rights, but apparently they also voted yes for DeSantis so he won...again. Well guess what? Yep, DeSantis threw out the abortion rights ballot and declared not enough people voted for abortion right, 57% was not enough of a majority so it just doesn't count and he is going to ignore it. I mean people in Florida, what did you fucking expect? Authoritarians will do exactly that, you basically voted against abortion rights when you voted yes for DeSantis!