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Loki
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Trump knows he doesn't need votes.

MAGA learnt a lot from the last attempt.

This time they have enough partisan election officials in place to throw the election Trump's way. Cause enough chaos and refuse to certify enough counties in swing states to claim victory, then let Scrotus find in your favour, you didn't buy them for nothing.

At least that's what he's betting on.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... gnificance

Buyers remorse? JD might be a bit more baggage than anticipated. Trump is kind of right though, the VP isn't a hugely significant position, traditionally at least, although Dick Chaney might refute me there but anyway. However, the VP is acutely significant should the P drop dead in office! And that is a big problem for everyone should Trump win the election. President Vance anyone? My god, what a thought.
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People might pay some more attention to the vp this time round after the last one refused an illegal order from his boss and potentially stopped quite a lot of unpleasantness.

And yes, it's a moronic thing to say, but how does that differentiate it from anything else Trump has ever said?
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Loki wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 8:15 pm People might pay some more attention to the vp this time round after the last one refused an illegal order from his boss and potentially stopped quite a lot of unpleasantness.

And yes, it's a moronic thing to say, but how does that differentiate it from anything else Trump has ever said?
People generally haven't paid that much attention to VP picks in the past because, well, most of them have actually been decent people who will stand and say no when it's necessary, aka the last one Pence, when push came to shove and he had to make that choice he chose the right one. But that's all changed with Trump and people know it, they are no longer decent people, at least the one Trump has chosen, I am sure Harris will do much better., they can no longer be trusted to actually do the job as specified in the constitution and by congress, so yes the VP will get a lot of attention this time around.

Oh yes speaking of decent people, here's an interesting video of Trump from many years ago at an inquiry into the granting of casino licences to Indian reservations, there's a lot of other stuff there but if you just want to see the discussion skip to 5:40.

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Hmm, must be a guest on news.com, he's not following the usual "everything Trump says and does is fine."
So nothing in Ms Scott’s question was anything other than factual. At what point did it become “unprofessional” for journalists, whose fundamental job is to hold those in power or seeking it to account, to make politicians justify their own words and actions?
“Well, first of all, I don’t think I’ve ever been asked a question in such a horrible manner,” Mr Trump said in his response to Ms Scott.

“You don’t even say, ‘Hello, how are you?’ Are you with ABC? Because I think they’re a fake news network, a terrible network. And I think it’s disgraceful that I came here, in good spirit. You were half an hour late. Just so you understand, I have too much respect for you to be late. They couldn’t get their equipment working or something.”

“Mr President, I would love it if you could answer the question,” Ms Scott interjected.

“I have answered the question,” Mr Trump said.

It was not an answer. It was nothing remotely close to an answer. Mr Trump could stand by his previous remarks, or he could repudiate them, but to suggest that even being asked about them is some sort of outrage? Come on.
A change of tone for news.com? Can they see the inevitable coming?

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 5701aab43f
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I'm just loving the tag team Dems at the moment. Biden pushing on Supreme Court reform and Harris scoffing with contempt at Trump's bullshit. It almost appears like there's been some kind of a personnel change at the strategic level of the party machine. It's like they've suddenly grasped the post-modernism of electoral politics. Next, I'm hoping they start to go hard on comedic mockery of the orange turd. Where are the comedy writers? In 2016 Michael Moore claimed that he and a group of comedians approached Clinton's team to write material for them and, apparently, they rejected the offer. Now would be a great moment to accept all comedic services offered.

Mockery, memes and soundbites are how to win elections in the US, or so it appears.
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pipbarber wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 6:29 pm I'm just loving the tag team Dems at the moment. Biden pushing on Supreme Court reform and Harris scoffing with contempt at Trump's bullshit. It almost appears like there's been some kind of a personnel change at the strategic level of the party machine. It's like they've suddenly grasped the post-modernism of electoral politics. Next, I'm hoping they start to go hard on comedic mockery of the orange turd. Where are the comedy writers? In 2016 Michael Moore claimed that he and a group of comedians approached Clinton's team to write material for them and, apparently, they rejected the offer. Now would be a great moment to accept all comedic services offered.

Mockery, memes and soundbites are how to win elections in the US, or so it appears.
I've lost the link to the other article I read, about how Democrats used to have a monopoly on comedy, but Republicans were all serious and traditional. Then at at some stage in the last couple of decades it flipped. Now the Dems seem to have lightened up a bit. This one covers similar territory.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 ... nally.html
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He lied? Who would have thought that would happen!
Trump Blamed ‘Audio Issues’ For Interview Delay, But NABJ President Says Real Reason Was ‘He Didn’t Want to Be Fact-Checked’

At the National Association of Black Journalists (NABJ) annual convention in Chicago on Wednesday, former President Donald Trump’s highly anticipated interview was delayed by over an hour, sparking a heated behind-the-scenes exchange. NABJ President Ken Lemon revealed that Trump’s refusal to take the stage was due to his aversion to live fact-checking, not technical problems as claimed by Trump’s team.
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Trump has decided, without consulting the Harris campaign team at all, that they have an agreement to debate on September the 4th. He has set it up with Fox news, with Fox News hosts, and an open arena, of Republican supporters I am assuming, so basically setting his own rules, so not an agreed rule set between the two teams. There is no agreement of course because he hasn't come to one with the Harris team. He has set it for the 4th September, before the originally agreed 10th September debate, so he can accuse Harris of being scared to show up to the debate and use that as a reason to justify him not showing up on the 10th. It appears to be a smart and underhanded move, so probably not his idea. The best response now would be for Harris's team to bring forward the 10th Sep debate to the 2nd Sep.

https://imgur.com/gallery/harris-campai ... ce-u5FQO73
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I'm hoping to see more of this sort of thing, states where a meaningful minority of Republicans have not fully succumbed to the Trump madness. Cracks in the MAGA machine.
Trump reopens old feud in Georgia. Some Republicans are scratching their heads.

Some Republicans warned Trump’s comments could threaten his already shaky prospects in the state.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/0 ... a-00172564
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