Electric + Human-Powered Vehicles

[Loki]

I'm usually driving a rental mine spec 4wd ute while at work and i have to say vehicle manufacturers, are doing a brilliant job of convincing me to never buy a new vehicle ever again.

It's not the mechanics or finish, those appear to be improving across the board.

It's the computerised bits.

It's vehicles that drag you back onto the roadkill you just tried to avoid.

It's vehicles that quietly slow you down to match the caravan doing 70 in front of you so you never catch up to them.

It's the continual whining and nannying and beeping.

And i mean beeping continually, to the extent of almost being a continuous tone. It is a 4wd, it is meant to go off the road. When you are off the road there are occasionally bits that are not entirely flat.

It's 4wds that get scared when they see a tuft of grass and have a fit. To the extent of slamming on their own brakes when confronted with a particularly alarming bush at 20 k. I can't tell you how old it gets in a vehicle that beeps continuously all day while you are trying to work.

It's the annoyance of a vehicle that has to play a happy tune to let you know you just got in. I fucking know i just got in.

And to let you know you just got out. Or opened the door with the key in. Or just opened a door.

And then locks the vehicle. Do they think the risk of their precious vehicle being stolen by a rabid dingo is severe enough that it's worth making me unlock it 357 times a day?

I'm betting the next safety feature will be to wind the windows up before locking the vehicle every time you get out to open a gate.

It's having a bright screen continually on that you simply can't turn off. Even better when it's a map that rotates in your peripheral vision every time you take a bend.

They are now starting with vehicles that continually nag you with smarmy ai voices. "Make sure to obey all road regulations". Make sure you go fuck yourself. Aggravating on the highway, utterly soul destroying when there hasn't been a road for 50k.

And of course, with significant time wasted, you can turn a lot of this shit off, for some brands that lasts all the way till the next time you turn the ignition off. Thanks team.

I'm seriously thinking of retiring, because of the fucking ridiculous vehicles.

Some of this may be rental companies being fuckwits, if so its certainly not helping.

Sorry, i polluted the thread with a rant

[stevebrooks]

Sorry, i polluted the thread with a rant

Every single thing you said was entirely justified, it's technology for technology sake and no other reason. Ostensibly it's safety of course, but if it gets to the point it's so annoying that people simply turn it off then what the fuck is the point.

[Loki]

My own vehicle is currently a 1992 ute.

Never whines, is cheap to register and insure, and i save the carbon from a new build.

Wouldn't mind power steering tho.

[stevebrooks]

Ok this interesting, ok maybe some people won't find it so interesting, or even boring, but it shows how electric trucks will work successfully, oh and it's not one of the cyber ones, it's a Scania!

[stevebrooks]

France prototype electric tractor, a few months old now but shows what you can do.

[stevebrooks]

Hyundai Insta (Casper) in Korea;

[stevebrooks]

China, while the rest of the worlds politicians try to carry on as if nothing is changing (talking about you Dutton you moron) China is going to screw them all, probably starting with Australia. It wouldn't surprise me if pretty soon China is exporting power to Australia rather than buying coal!

[stevebrooks]

Solid state batteries finally coming online next year?



And yes, I did see it coming, the change to solar and EV's is going to be disruptive to the entire car industry, and it will happen seemingly overnight.

[stylofone]

Solid state batteries finally coming online next year?



And yes, I did see it coming, the change to solar and EV's is going to be disruptive to the entire car industry, and it will happen seemingly overnight.

I like his videos because of the wide-eyed enthusiasm about the, yes, "overnight" transformation. The anti EV petrol heads are such clowns and it is going to be fun to see this play out on their pathetic conservative arses. I reckon 2026 for price parity - an EV will be roughly the same price as the equivalent ICE model, but it will be better value for most buyers because of cheap solar charging and less maintenance. Then after that the sticker price for a petrol car will be higher and the gap will increase until it is no longer viable to even make an ICE car.

[stevebrooks]

Solid state batteries finally coming online next year?



And yes, I did see it coming, the change to solar and EV's is going to be disruptive to the entire car industry, and it will happen seemingly overnight.

I like his videos because of the wide-eyed enthusiasm about the, yes, "overnight" transformation. The anti EV petrol heads are such clowns and it is going to be fun to see this play out on their pathetic conservative arses. I reckon 2026 for price parity - an EV will be roughly the same price as the equivalent ICE model, but it will be better value for most buyers because of cheap solar charging and less maintenance. Then after that the sticker price for a petrol car will be higher and the gap will increase until it is no longer viable to even make an ICE car.

I did actually comment on this video, the one thing that rarely gets mentioned is the increasing cost of fossil fuels as EV's take over the roads. It probably won't affect diesel as much as petrol, but the reason fossil fuel is so damn cheap is because we use so damn much. if we start reducing consumption, specially of petrol because that is a highly refined component of crude whereas diesel is less refined and therefore cheaper to make, the cost of petrol at the pump will increase as the cost of owning and running an EV decreases.