Voice to Parliament Referendum

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Going to vote today. Going with my daughter who is voting for the first time and other family. We all normally enjoy voting days but i'm feeling so disheartened this morning. Hoping for a miracle, ironically.

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6 days of pre-poll done. I'd say the response is about what the polls are suggesting.

Yesterday I gave a lady a yes brochure, the no volunteer tried to give her one of his. She said to him "No thanks, I'm educated".

He was the volunteer we had to explain the changes to the constitution to during pre-poll.
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wolty wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:35 am 6 days of pre-poll done. I'd say the response is about what the polls are suggesting.

Yesterday I gave a lady a yes brochure, the no volunteer tried to give her one of his. She said to him "No thanks, I'm educated".

He was the volunteer we had to explain the changes to the constitution to during pre-poll.
Article in news.com today noting the peculiar lack of NO vote volunteers at polling places to talk to and hand out flyers for the NO campaign. That doesn't really surprise me, the sort of people pushing for the NO vote aren't the sort of people who would actually volunteer to stand outside a polling place and hand out flyers, they're conspiracy theorists and misinformation pushers, actually expect them to get off the computer and do some work to support the NO campaign? No internet points to be earned there. Whereas many if not most of the YES supporters actually believe in what they are campaigning for and many are indeed willing to put boots on the ground!
No campaigners may have made a grave error on voting day as millions of Australians head to the polls.

Those campaigning against the Indigenous Voice to Parliament have “arrogantly abandoned” their posts outside polling booths, a Melbourne-based political expert has claimed, which could see the Yes side claw back some votes.

Kos Samaras, founder of political consultancy firm Redbridge and a former key Victorian Labor strategist, made the observation on Saturday morning.

“Absence of No volunteers at polling places is stark,” he wrote on social platform X, formerly known as Twitter.

He said this was good news for the Yes campaign, who could “convert” the undecided at the 11th hour.

“The biggest and most overlooked driver of the No vote is actually apathy,” he added.
Sadly looking at early results I doubt it is enough to sway the vote, in will be NO almost certainly! I would be most happy to be proved to be wrong, but early results are coming in 60+% NO, that's a huge margin to claw back.

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Looking even worse than I expected it to go.. sigh.. :-(

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joele wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:58 pm Looking even worse than I expected it to go.. sigh.. :-(

Disappointed in Victoria.
Pretty well fucked.
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I don't want to focus on my own disappointment, I'm thinking about the indigenous people who might have had hope for success, hope for change. I'm thinking about the yearning for a better future for their children expressed in the Uluru statement. I know they are tough, that's how they survive, but if I were in that position it might not be disappointment, it might be despair I'd be feeling right now. I was also just reminded of the concept of revolutionary love, we need plenty of that. I'm also glad I exchanged some friendly words with a couple of the indigenous kids on my street this morning, they are beautiful kids.

I've also been thinking about Albanese, he wasn't the right leader for the job, he's a bland uninteresting personality like John Howard. He'll probably do OK politically, but without a win on the Voice, I now see his legacy as failing to act on climate change.
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It is indeed far worse than it should have been, I am embarrassed by my electorate only voting 27% yes, but I see many others with even lower percentages. Only 2 electorates in WA voted yes....sigh, the world will react, what form it takes we can now only wait for!
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My electorate, Melbourne, was 78% yes. But it's no comfort. What a shocking result. So much worse than i expected.

Perhaps the progressive no vote offers some consolation. Why get subsumed into a racist colonial superstructure, better to organise outside it, against the whole fucking thing.

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