Aus Election 2025

[stylofone]

Blaming what they perceive as the "left" media (it's not left in reality) for misleading the voters? Ha! It's the actually right-wing media which has misled people like Gina. I don't always agree with Peter Hartcher, but he has some good observations today.

A third lesson that the Liberals really should learn? The Murdoch media is their ally, but it is not a good indicator of electoral support. When The Australian, Sky News After Dark, the Daily Telegraph and the rest lavish praise and encouragement on the Liberals, the credulous Libs interpret this as public support.

It is not. It is Murdoch support. And that is not going to win you an election. This election, once again, illustrates the impotence of Murdoch to generate votes. Love from the Murdoch media is the siren song that lures smitten Liberals onto the rocks of electoral disaster.

The rusted on man-o-sphere of Liberal politics is also deservedly getting the blowtorch today. Also the lived experience of rooftop solar, including in Dutton's electorate, which has among the highest installation rate in the country. People love renewables, they have already voted with their wallets!

I really look forward to lived experience of Americans in all areas to drop a massive rock on Trump's head.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... 5lwqi.html

[pipbarber]

She's the poster child for people who think they are smart because they are rich.

That's a very big call Wolty, given the competition. But you might be right.

It's odd that Gina would hold up Hungary and Italy as places we should look to for guidance! Really?

The push from Gina and other conservative figures to be more maga like is completely predictable, but it isn't based in reality. The fact is that Dutton was ahead in the polls when Trump took office, and so was the Canadian conservative opposition. Their collapse in support directly corresponds to Trump's idiotic, chaotic, illegal and cruel policies once in power. He's single-handedly crashed the share market and rhetorically and economically attacked every nation on earth. His first 3 months are a national disaster. His own polls have collapsed. This part of the equation seems to be escaping Gina.

The only people benefiting from maga are billionaires. The reason Australians 'don't get it,' Gina, is because the vast majority of Australians aren't billionaires. That might be news to her.

Lets not forget this is a woman, the richest person in Australia, who has disowned her own children because they tried to claim their own legally entitled portion of granddaddies wealth. Who would listen to such a person?

[stylofone]

She's the poster child for people who think they are smart because they are rich.

You can't buy immunity from kool-aid. And they all like the look of that artificially coloured and flavoured sugary water!

[wolty]

As I posted on Blue Sky, I as an ALP member agree with Gina. The LNP must embrace all Trump policies!! They'll never be elected again.

[stevebrooks]

A bit late, but I just came across the honest political party add for the coalition and Dutton in particular lol:

[stylofone]

A bit late, but I just came across the honest political party add for the coalition and Dutton in particular lol:

That aged well. No sarcasm, it is VINTAGE!

[stevebrooks]

Greens are gone, all of them, it's now 89-40 in favour of Labor, that's a party wrecking result.

[pipbarber]

Greens are gone, all of them, it's now 89-40 in favour of Labor, that's a party wrecking result.

Maybe, but not necessarily. They'll still have 11 senators, holding the balance of power. They narrowly lost their lower house seats, were close to picking up a couple of new ones. Their vote remained steady. By far the third largest party in Australia.

Depending on who they elect as leader, and how they perform in the senate, they have a strong chance of attracting ALP voters who will inevitably be disappointed by labor's environment and climate change policies over the next term. Climate change is not going away. It will get worse and its impact will be more and more obvious.

Adam Bandt was a solid leader but maybe a change will be good. I think the only way to wreck the greens is for labor to actually institute not just greens policies on the environment but also their social reform policies thus making the greens redundant, and that is obviously not going to happen.

But they do have to be careful.

[stevebrooks]

Depending on who they elect as leader, and how they perform in the senate, they have a strong chance of attracting ALP voters who will inevitably be disappointed by labor's environment and climate change policies over the next term. Climate change is not going away. It will get worse and its impact will be more and more obvious.

Yeah two problems right, first there's no-one in the rest of the Liberal party. When I say no-one, there are people, essentially, nameless, faceless people, the days of the "John Howards" and "Malcolm Turnbulls" and "Tony Abbots" are long gone, that's the only reason I can think of them actually picking Dutton this time around, simple because people have heard of him, not because he had an voter appeal, they needed a name people already knew and a perceived high profile, high charisma name. Before Trump got in that was looking like a winning strategy, they had it all wrapped up, but now he's gone and that's it.

The second one is, as you say, climate change, it's not going away, it will get worse even over the 3 years of the new government, it's important they get that message across, and also the message about renewables, they need to do something serious. Education, action on electrification of the roads, EV subsidies, solar and wind power, get moving. They have 3 years to actually convince the public that is the right way to go. Given that National MP's are still insisting, rather stupidly, that Nuclear should still be a major platform item for the Coalition, the next election is labors to lose I think.

[pipbarber]

Depending on who they elect as leader, and how they perform in the senate, they have a strong chance of attracting ALP voters who will inevitably be disappointed by labor's environment and climate change policies over the next term. Climate change is not going away. It will get worse and its impact will be more and more obvious.

Yeah two problems right, first there's no-one in the rest of the Liberal party. When I say no-one, there are people, essentially, nameless, faceless people, the days of the "John Howards" and "Malcolm Turnbulls" and "Tony Abbots" are long gone, that's the only reason I can think of them actually picking Dutton this time around, simple because people have heard of him, not because he had an voter appeal, they needed a name people already knew and a perceived high profile, high charisma name. Before Trump got in that was looking like a winning strategy, they had it all wrapped up, but now he's gone and that's it.

The second one is, as you say, climate change, it's not going away, it will get worse even over the 3 years of the new government, it's important they get that message across, and also the message about renewables, they need to do something serious. Education, action on electrification of the roads, EV subsidies, solar and wind power, get moving. They have 3 years to actually convince the public that is the right way to go. Given that National MP's are still insisting, rather stupidly, that Nuclear should still be a major platform item for the Coalition, the next election is labors to lose I think.

Oh yeah, but i was referring to the Greens. The coalition are fucked. Whichever senator the Greens choose as leader will be better than whoever the Libs land on and yes, the Libs are out of big profile players.

The ALP will win the next election unless they really fuck up. Trump will still be in power too (if he hasn't has a KFC stroke). But i'd happily wager that in the next vote there will be a swing to both the Greens and the coalition. Good and bad. But who knows, crystal ball gazing here.