Calling it. An increased majority. Dutton is gone. There's only pre poll left for the LNP and I did almost every day and as another ALP volunteer repeated most days, there's no baseball bats.
Old seats are going to the ALP.
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Dutton lost his seat so even after the election he won't be party leader, he'll be gone altogether, look seriously even if by some miracle the libs managed to scrape in, getting rid of Dutton would still call for celebration. Bit upset that my seat is going strongly for libs, but it is a country seat after all and we all know what they are like, hard to win for labor!
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Had a good look at the swings and there are very few swings towards Lib/Nat, even in seats the lib/nat are retaining there are still swings towards Labor, looking like it will indeed be a historic loss for Lib/Nat, and I can't help thinking we have Dutton himself to thank for that, he was probably the worst candidate to field in a challenging election like this, while it's nice to have some to pull in the edge cases, you don't want someone who will chase away the moderates, and I think Dutton managed that quite well, still some time to go to see the actual results but it's looking good...phew, starting to breathe easier now.
Dickson over 10% swing to Labor, that's got to be a record swing against sitting party leader, they are usually in safe seats!
Dickson over 10% swing to Labor, that's got to be a record swing against sitting party leader, they are usually in safe seats!
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ABC has already given Labor 77 seats, an outright majority, most of the other sites are holding off calling the majority so far, but I can sleep well tonight.
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Sanity has broken out. It's great to see Dutton and his nuclear nightmare sent packing, great to see an Australian result which will count against Trumpian despotism around the world. Would love to see Labor move away from AUKUS as part of that.
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At the current predictions it looks like a 93 seat to 41 seat drubbing, it's not just historic, I am not sure there's a word to describe such a situation from Dutton hours ago saying there was a likely Liberal/NAT surprise win because of the silent majority to this, it's, well, it's embarrassing, you almost feel sorry for them, but then you realise what they had planned of they won and think thank fuck for that!
Should we be surprised? Um, Australia has in general been an uptaker of new technologies, much faster than say, the USA, where cheques, yes those paper things, are still quite big, I can't even recall the last time I saw a cheque! With the uptake of home solar so large I am quite surprised by the poor showing of the Greens, they only retained one seat, but you know I think a lot of would be Greens voters must have realised how important it was to send a big message to the Coalition, that was my thought on voting this time, you just can't risk it!
So I think there was a big proportion of Australians who looked at the Coalition message and understood they were taking the country backwards!
Beer o'clock everyone, we've done it big time!
Should we be surprised? Um, Australia has in general been an uptaker of new technologies, much faster than say, the USA, where cheques, yes those paper things, are still quite big, I can't even recall the last time I saw a cheque! With the uptake of home solar so large I am quite surprised by the poor showing of the Greens, they only retained one seat, but you know I think a lot of would be Greens voters must have realised how important it was to send a big message to the Coalition, that was my thought on voting this time, you just can't risk it!
So I think there was a big proportion of Australians who looked at the Coalition message and understood they were taking the country backwards!
Beer o'clock everyone, we've done it big time!
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Congratulations Wolty!
Disappointing for Greens. The vote remained steady, 0.07 swing against is not catastrophic. They'll probably have 3 seats in the lower house at best. The idea that would-be greens voters went for the ALP out of fear of Dutton may be true, after all i've been alerted this election to the general public's confusion around preferential voting. It's idiotic.
Also, climate change was barely mentioned this election, which was good for the ALP considering how many new coal-seam gas approvals they've given. They continue to defend the toxic salmon farm industry, they've turned a blind eye to land clearing and so on. And now i'm deeply concerned they'll water down ecological protection policies even more.
Anyway, now's not the time for that. Now is the time to bask in Australia's open rejection of Dutton, nuclear power and maga.
Disappointing for Greens. The vote remained steady, 0.07 swing against is not catastrophic. They'll probably have 3 seats in the lower house at best. The idea that would-be greens voters went for the ALP out of fear of Dutton may be true, after all i've been alerted this election to the general public's confusion around preferential voting. It's idiotic.
Also, climate change was barely mentioned this election, which was good for the ALP considering how many new coal-seam gas approvals they've given. They continue to defend the toxic salmon farm industry, they've turned a blind eye to land clearing and so on. And now i'm deeply concerned they'll water down ecological protection policies even more.
Anyway, now's not the time for that. Now is the time to bask in Australia's open rejection of Dutton, nuclear power and maga.
First they came for the 'illegal' immigrants...and i did not speak out because i was not an illegal immigrant.
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We had a new teal candidate here who did better than the Green candidate. The teal's bio was all about business this, chamber of commerce that, entrepreneur the other. As usual I went for Greens first, but put Labor second because the local MP is a kind of a giant-killer, she has held off massive assaults from the dreadful Andrew Constance, he's like a giant orc in the Liberal party army of Mordor. I put the teal third.pipbarber wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 7:55 am Congratulations Wolty!
Disappointing for Greens. The vote remained steady, 0.07 swing against is not catastrophic. They'll probably have 3 seats in the lower house at best. The idea that would-be greens voters went for the ALP out of fear of Dutton may be true, after all i've been alerted this election to the general public's confusion around preferential voting. It's idiotic.
Also, climate change was barely mentioned this election, which was good for the ALP considering how many new coal-seam gas approvals they've given. They continue to defend the toxic salmon farm industry, they've turned a blind eye to land clearing and so on. And now i'm deeply concerned they'll water down ecological protection policies even more.
Anyway, now's not the time for that. Now is the time to bask in Australia's open rejection of Dutton, nuclear power and maga.
I heard one commentator say the raw numbers of Green voters are up nationally, they just didn't land in the concentration needed to win seats.
The absence of climate as a major issue in this election is interesting. Since 2022 we have seen a sharp increase in catastrophic warming effects, but other issues have gained more attention. It's great to see right wing clusterfuck parties lose here and in Canada, but overall, the climate is also losing badly. The political science is like the climate science, the observations are getting more and more alarming as the days, months and years go by.
I have only modest expectations for Albanese to act decisively on economic inequality and decoupling from fascist USA. I hope to be surprised but I won't hold my breath.
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Not sure I really agree there, the Coalitions entire policy led by Dutton was a resounding rejection of climate change and renewable power, with Nuclear, the removal of emission standards and promotion of fossil fuels, that Labor didn't campaign on these things is curious but maybe intentional, that the Coalition did is obvious. I think climate was a major issue, but it was the rejection of climate denialism of the Coalition that actually made a difference, rather than promotion of climate change action by Labor.stylofone wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 8:48 amThe absence of climate as a major issue in this election is interesting. Since 2022 we have seen a sharp increase in catastrophic warming effects, but other issues have gained more attention. It's great to see right wing clusterfuck parties lose here and in Canada, but overall, the climate is also losing badly. The political science is like the climate science, the observations are getting more and more alarming as the days, months and years go by.
I think it was a smart move by Labor not to politic on climate change but on the other important things and let the Coalition dig their own grave on climate, sometimes you just have to stand back and let the other side commit harakiri. I agree that Labor does need to step up on many environmental issues and maybe, just maybe, this increased majority may give them confidence to push ahead in areas that they were doubtful on previously.
Still we'll see how they do, and just because it wasn't present in the election doesn't mean its a dead issue, climate protests need to continue and get larger to put pressure on whoever is in office anywhere!
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If I look at if from the point of view of celebrating the defeat of a batshit crazy ragtag army of climate denying liberals, yes, it's a win for the climate.stevebrooks wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 10:44 amNot sure I really agree there, the Coalitions entire policy led by Dutton was a resounding rejection of climate change and renewable power, with Nuclear, the removal of emission standards and promotion of fossil fuels, that Labor didn't campaign on these things is curious but maybe intentional, that the Coalition did is obvious. I think climate was a major issue, but it was the rejection of climate denialism of the Coalition that actually made a difference, rather than promotion of climate change action by Labor.stylofone wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 8:48 amThe absence of climate as a major issue in this election is interesting. Since 2022 we have seen a sharp increase in catastrophic warming effects, but other issues have gained more attention. It's great to see right wing clusterfuck parties lose here and in Canada, but overall, the climate is also losing badly. The political science is like the climate science, the observations are getting more and more alarming as the days, months and years go by.
I think it was a smart move by Labor not to politic on climate change but on the other important things and let the Coalition dig their own grave on climate, sometimes you just have to stand back and let the other side commit harakiri. I agree that Labor does need to step up on many environmental issues and maybe, just maybe, this increased majority may give them confidence to push ahead in areas that they were doubtful on previously.
Still we'll see how they do, and just because it wasn't present in the election doesn't mean its a dead issue, climate protests need to continue and get larger to put pressure on whoever is in office anywhere!
I need to find a better way to calibrate my feelings abut climate action and politics. With the political conditions we have now, I don't think any government could win if they put forward the sort of climate policies I have in mind (degrowth, energy austerity, etc.)
I can feel it