Donald Trump

[pipbarber]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... d-payments

This was always going to happen. The supreme court will rubber stamp all of Trump's unconstitutional executive orders, (not that his US aid order is necessarily unconstitutional).

Trump has been sued somewhere near 4000 times, a good proportion of which was for unpaid bills, and this $1.5 billion that he is refusing to pay to US aid is for work already done. Basically, it's a bill.

[stevebrooks]

They are getting stupider?

These people literally think RFK Junior is going to invent a cure for a disease we already have a cure for!

https://imgur.com/gallery/having-faith-lunatic-KDPjx9v

[stevebrooks]

When you know you are dealing with a complete moron...maybe dementia!

During his joint appearance with Mr Starmer in the Oval Office, Mr Trump declined to repeat his characterisation of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, last week, as “a dictator”.

“Did I say that?” he quipped when a reporter brought it up.

“I can’t believe I said that. Next question.”

It was on international news, the entire world saw it you idiot!

You think we will ever get our submarines, there's fuck all chance, at some stage they will just declare it a bad deal and just keep all the money already paid. This idiot doesn't even know they are building submarines for Australia, wait until he finds out, he will want to keep them for the US!

During the pair’s joint appearance in the Oval Office, a reporter asked Mr Trump about AUKUS, the trilateral security alliance between the US, UK and Australia.

Mr Trump appeared to have no idea what they were talking about.

“Will you be discussing AUKUS with the Prime Minister, sir?” a reporter asked Mr Trump.

“What does that mean?” he replied.

“AUKUS. The Australia-US defence alliance,” the reporter clarified.

“Yeah, we’ll be discussing that. We have (a) great relationship,” said Mr Trump, with the vibe of a student who did not do the readings treading water and hoping the lecturer just moves on. He went on to say some vaguely complimentary things about Australia.

At a meeting with the UK Prime Minister he had no idea that the most important military alliance between the UK, US and AU even existed, you would think someone would have briefed him on that. Of course it does clearly indicate why they are taking control of the press pool at the white house, so they can't have unexpected questions, I am guessing here but they will be telling those in attendance what they can and can't ask Trump!

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... e57ad79cde

[stylofone]

I watched as much of it as I could stand, but it made my blood boil.

It makes me wonder about mutually assured destruction, the supposed nuclear deterrence observed by the US, Russia and the other nuclear nations. But what happens if two of them join forces and authorise violent expansionism? Because Trump and Vance are obviously on Russia's side. They are the ones gambling with WW3. It's especially relevant given Ukraine's abandonment of nukes in return for guarantees of its sovereignty in 1994. Nauseating behaviour by the Trump killer clown show.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... -live-news

[wolty]

It's horrendous.

[stevebrooks]

Vance to Zelensky, "you have no men left in your country." Yes that was from Vance, the epitome of spineless boot licking, a weak sniveling coward at best, at worst he would run away and kowtow to Putin in a moment if the US people rise up, is this really what the US has become? They are nothing more than Putin slaves now!

https://imgur.com/gallery/zelenskyy-DlxgPzs

[pipbarber]

I don't think i've ever seen anything like that. They're just infantile bullies. Still, it makes perfectly clear whose side 'merica is on, and it's not Ukraine's obviously, and it's not Europe's and it's also not ours either. The sooner everyone comes to terms with that the safer we'll all be. Albo needs to jet off to London and Brussels and Berlin right now!

[stylofone]

I don't think i've ever seen anything like that. They're just infantile bullies. Still, it makes perfectly clear whose side 'merica is on, and it's not Ukraine's obviously, and it's not Europe's and it's also not ours either. The sooner everyone comes to terms with that the safer we'll all be. Albo needs to jet off to London and Brussels and Berlin right now!

It makes me wonder about our complex relationships, whereby the US is our biggest security partner, and China is our biggest trading partner. Sometimes we have to make compromises, e.g. copping bitchy Chinese sanctions because we're doing some sucky job or other for the sheriff. But if the security relationship with the US is set on fire when mindless arsonists like Trump and Vance are wearing the sheriff's badge, and if the US is just as evil as China, why do we even bother doing the sucky deputy sheriff jobs? There's not much to be gained from this frightening Trumpian nightmare, but we might as well grab it.

Both Albanese and Dutton made excuses for the Orange buffoon when he revealed he doesn't even know what AUKUS is. Pathetic. I thought Starmer was similarly cringeworthy in the oval office. Macron was much better.

[pipbarber]

The prospect of a civil war in the US is of course something that has to be contemplated, even if it is wildly unlikely. If Trump turns against traditional allies like Europe, Mexico, Canada, Panama etc, and recent allies like Ukraine, it will tear the nation in two. But a more startling prospect is that a US civil war will not be confined to the US. It will spread everywhere. How many Australians absolutely love Trump and agree and support everything he's doing? Maybe 30%, maybe 40%? Probably a minority but that would be the minority that controls the weapons.

Support for maga may well evaporate in Europe if they send troops or weapons to Putin, but it won't here.

My god! We are totally wedged. Yes, improving things with China is urgent, but it won't happen...because laboral are rightly terrified of Trump.

So when Trump demands Australia send troops to fight Ukraine, or unfathomably, western Europe, what then?

[stylofone]

The prospect of a civil war in the US is of course something that has to be contemplated, even if it is wildly unlikely. If Trump turns against traditional allies like Europe, Mexico, Canada, Panama etc, and recent allies like Ukraine, it will tear the nation in two. But a more startling prospect is that a US civil war will not be confined to the US. It will spread everywhere. How many Australians absolutely love Trump and agree and support everything he's doing? Maybe 30%, maybe 40%? Probably a minority but that would be the minority that controls the weapons.

Support for maga may well evaporate in Europe if they send troops or weapons to Putin, but it won't here.

My god! We are totally wedged. Yes, improving things with China is urgent, but it won't happen...because laboral are rightly terrified of Trump.

So when Trump demands Australia send troops to fight Ukraine, or unfathomably, western Europe, what then?

I wonder how much of the Australian Trump fanbase are starting to work it out: Trump holds Australia in contempt. He is "America first" all the way. To be pro-Trump is to be anti-Australia, no matter how much you agree with him about wokeness or shower nozzles or whatever he is ranting about at the time. The Trumpists WILL have to choose between their cherished Australian patriotism and Trumpism. I hope they come to understand that, and it thins out their numbers before it comes to civil war. In Canada and the UK the conservatives have worked it out, or some of them. Even Farage, and Marine le Pen's mob have been a bit shocked at times at how team Trump expects them to behave.

There's also an emerging clarity about how much of a bona fide fascist Trump really is. There's a sort of a smokescreen that he's a businessman, he's transactional, he puts a dollar value on everything. That might explain why he's trying to swindle the Ukrainians for their rare earths. But the other side of it is that he really agrees with Putin's approach to take what he covets, just because he can. Might is right. It's compatible with Trump's Greenland statements, also the Panama canal, Gaza, Canada as the 51st State. Like Hitler and his lebensraum, like Saddam and his grab for Kuwait, Trump wants to grab something for himself too.