Donald Trump

[Hambone]

Hmmm- what are the chances that DJT will call for an FDR style exception to the maximum "two terms" rule, because war (and rumours of war) is on the menu with Puti (and or several other favourite despots)?

In a nation serious about democracy and the law, the Orange Frappe would be incarcerated already.

[two dogs]

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Maybe it includes injecting bleach and sticking bright lights up your arse.

FWIW, in the interest of accuracy, the orange fuckwit suggested injecting disinfectant, not bleach (which is nevertheless no less idiotic).

And he didn't specifically say to put powerful lights up peoples' arses. It was either through the skin, or "some other way". Of course, there are probably only two other ways; down the throat, or up the arse!

EDIT: Of course, there are more than two ways; up the urethra, and for some, up the vagina.

I know this because I was prompted to watch this video of him saying that. In that clip, Dr. Birx's reaction via her body language when he suggested those things is quite telling.

[stevebrooks]

A lot of videos floating around at the moment about how Muslims and other screwed themselves by using their vote as a protest vote to hurt the Dem's, basically Genocide Joe protests outside the DNC and etc, and suddenly it turns out they elected Trump and his ambassador to Israel simply doesn't believe Palestine exists and that all the actions Israel is undertaking is, well, justified because the Palestinians are occupying Israel territory, or some such shit! Now they are all begging Biden to do something before it's to late and he gets blamed for everything bad that happens there.

Well news for them, they were already blaming him for everything bad that was happening there, but at least he was willing to put in the effort to stop what it happening, now though? They re fucked!

[two dogs]

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You may try to point out the irrelevance of the Blau and Holmes study, though you will fail.

Could you point out the relevance of the Blau and Holmes study? Over 20 years later, I don't see hydroxychloroquine being prescribed as a prophylactic for the common cold, which is the virus on which the lab experiment was conducted?

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Readers should see a journal logo in the upper right-hand corner of the B&H study which will lead you to the complete article incl. references.

I'm not sure why I'm continuing to engage with someone with such a comprension deficit.

Which part of "I did find a PDF copy of that 2001 study" do you not understand.

RFK Jr. mentions the ivermectin time-window of 48 hours in his book, The Real Anthony Fauci. He says "within the first week" for hcq in several places in "Killing Hydroxychloroquine," (p.19) otherwise had he known about B&H, he would have known that "within a week" is always already too late and would have published this science.

The Real Anthony Fauci, "Killing Hydroxychloroquine," p. 19
https://archive.org/details/kennedy-rob ... y-fauc.pdf

Your link is fucked; nevertheless, I did find a copy of his demented ~800-page diatribe, viz.:

https://julian-jordan.net/documents/The ... -Fauci.pdf

On p. 38....
An April 3, 2020 article entitled "Lab Experiments Show Anti-Parasitic Drug, Ivermectin, Eliminates SARS-CoV-2 in cells in 48 Hours," by Australian researchers at Monash and Melbourne Universities and the Royal Melbourne Hospital, first won IVM global attention as a potential treatment for COVID. The international press initially raved that this safe, inexpensive, well-known, and readily available drug had demolished SARS-CoV-2 in cell cultures. "We found that even a single dose could essentially remove all viral RNA by 48 hours and that even at 24 hours there was a really significant reduction in it," said lead researcher Dr. Kylie Wagstaff
https://www.monash.edu/discovery-instit ... n-48-hours
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Thank fuck that you've referenced a more recent paper. Again, it's an in vitro (I'm not sure if you know what that means) experiment (I'm not sure if you know what that means)!

Here's the most recent update I could find on the clinical trials resulting from that experiment to test the dosage/efficacy of the treatment on people (rather than cells in a "test tube").

https://www.monash.edu/discovery-instit ... ctin-trial

[pipbarber]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... eportation

Well, he's keeping up the nazi policy rhetoric.

A part of me thinks he won't logistically be able to do it, how do you deport 10 million people, and to where? Why would Mexico allow the US military to cross the border to 'dump' truck loads of people? And in any case, they're not all from Mexico.

Or maybe the military leadership will somehow refuse their commander in chief. It will of course be economically ruinous, but why would Trump care about that. In these postmodern times, perhaps Trump just needs to be 'seen' to be deporting people, without actually doing it.

Caveats everywhere. We've seen this before. The cheaper solution is mass murder. If they stumble down that path, as history has demonstrated over and over again, no one is immune. (Not that this has been stated, of course, but final solution policies rarely are).

Trump appears to be knocking on the full Nazi door, whether he enters it or not remains to be seen, but one thing i do know is that maga enthusiasts can go and fuck themselves sideways.

[stevebrooks]

As I have repeated a number of times on other fora, Hitlers first plans for the Jews was in fact mass deportation, this failed because it was impossible, there simply was nowhere in the world he could ship them to.

Caveats everywhere. We've seen this before. The cheaper solution is mass murder. If they stumble down that path, as history has demonstrated over and over again, no one is immune. (Not that this has been stated, of course, but final solution policies rarely are).

It 's not in fact the cheaper solution, it's the only practical solution. You can't build camps for 10 million people without millions dying, and that's not even done with any intention. The millions of people he will be locking are actually the people who are harvesting crops for farmers, preparing food and doing other needed services. The costs of placing these 10 million in camps then trying to get food to them will simply fail, logistically , they would be default death camps even without any intention. Starvation, disease, remember JFK and health care, that won't exist, but even worse of course, JFK wants to send depressed people to camps, kids with ADHD and ADD. Got to remember also that gas chambers in NAZI Germany weren't in fact invented for killing Jews, they were invented to kill the disabled and mentally ill in normal German society;

Following the outbreak of war in September 1939 the programme was expanded. Adults with disabilities, chronic illnesses, mental health problems and criminals who were not of German origin were included in the programme. Six killing centres were established to speed up the process – the previous methods of killing people by lethal injection or starvation were deemed too slow to cope with large numbers of adults. The first experimental gassings took place at the killing centre in Brandenberg and thousands of disabled patients were killed in gas chambers disguised as shower rooms.

The model used for killing disabled people was later applied to the industrialised murder within Nazi concentration and death camps such as Auschwitz-Birkenau.

Its almost certain the Trump plan of mass deportation will fail, if they try to enable it by force, ie: take over the Mexican or Canadian border it will result in military conflict, but in the end there is no practical way of forcibly deporting ten million people, nor, in fact, of actually only deporting non-citizens, US citizens of the wrong skin colour will certainly be rounded up with the rest, and there is no way they prove they are actually US citizens once they are piled in with the others.

I would suggest if he goes through with his intentions it will lead to the collapse of the administration fairly rapidly. It's whether or not he can get people to do what he wants that will determine the fate of him and his cronies.

[stylofone]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... eportation

Well, he's keeping up the nazi policy rhetoric.

A part of me thinks he won't logistically be able to do it, how do you deport 10 million people, and to where? Why would Mexico allow the US military to cross the border to 'dump' truck loads of people? And in any case, they're not all from Mexico.

Or maybe the military leadership will somehow refuse their commander in chief. It will of course be economically ruinous, but why would Trump care about that. In these postmodern times, perhaps Trump just needs to be 'seen' to be deporting people, without actually doing it.

Caveats everywhere. We've seen this before. The cheaper solution is mass murder. If they stumble down that path, as history has demonstrated over and over again, no one is immune. (Not that this has been stated, of course, but final solution policies rarely are).

Trump appears to be knocking on the full Nazi door, whether he enters it or not remains to be seen, but one thing i do know is that maga enthusiasts can go and fuck themselves sideways.

I was just reading the tangentially relevant article below and wondering about the need for Australia to disengage from the USA. AUKUS is a disaster, it was stillborn but the doctors haven't told the parents yet, they're still buying nappies and prams and onesies. I don't have a good foreign relations brain, but it looks to me like we need to disperse our eggs into a lot of different baskets. At the other end of the scale from big picture foreign relations and military madness, I am a horrified at the zombie-like embrace of American culture by the Australian populace. I'm going to listen to the new album by Saagara to counter it.

https://johnmenadue.com/disingenuous-th ... edibility/

[stevebrooks]

Latest news, Dr Oz is in as Trump's pick to run Medicare and Medicaid;

https://imgur.com/gallery/this-is-who-t ... id-7etRNZY

[stevebrooks]

The new US head of the department of education is qualified in.....let's see, education? Nope. Experienced in, oh that's better, pro-wrestling, I mean what could go wrong?

Ms McMahon, a former pro-wrestling executive and Republican donor, previously served as the administrator of the Small Business Administration during Mr Trump’s first term.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 8d403bcaaf

Does it occur to anyone that the reason he is picking these people is because no-one with actual experience and qualifications is willing to work with him? I mean how many of the previous experts in his last administration has he called to be tried for treason and even executed, quite a few of them, he's left with these absolute nutters because no-one else is stupid enough to take the jobs. No-one wants to destroy their personal integrity and careers by being associated with him in any way!

[stylofone]

The new US head of the department of education is qualified in.....let's see, education? Nope. Experienced in, oh that's better, pro-wrestling, I mean what could go wrong?

Ms McMahon, a former pro-wrestling executive and Republican donor, previously served as the administrator of the Small Business Administration during Mr Trump’s first term.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 8d403bcaaf

Does it occur to anyone that the reason he is picking these people is because no-one with actual experience and qualifications is willing to work with him? I mean how many of the previous experts in his last administration has he called to be tried for treason and even executed, quite a few of them, he's left with these absolute nutters because no-one else is stupid enough to take the jobs. No-one wants to destroy their personal integrity and careers by being associated with him in any way!

Checks and balances? Pah! DIctator on day one? Yup! He took over the Supreme Court last time. He's already starting on the legislative branch this time. The Senate is the dominant chamber in the US (unlike Australia). It seems highly likely Trump will take advantage of his SCOTUS control to remove the Senate's power of cabinet confirmations. As stevebrooks said, his cabinet picks are just ego accessories for the great leader anyway. With Dr Oz, the WWE founder, and the Fox News presenter, (three entertainment industry picks) he obviously wants show ponies. As a reality TV has-been himself, he recognises their skills in augmenting his totalitarian theatre.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -explained