Donald Trump

[pipbarber]

Kennedy is his health secretary pick.

On a day when The Onion bought Infowars, satire is sane, the institutions of government are crazy!

Well, if someone doesn't put a restraint on vaccinations, infectious diseases are facing extinction! So...this might be maga's contribution to....conservation?

I hear measles are throwing a big party, all americans are invited.

[stylofone]

Honestly, I feel as though the world has become a black comedy.

Laughter is an appropriate response, especially when everything is so absurd, so ridiculous. I've read too many post-apocalypse SF books, as well as watching a lot of movies and TV shows on that theme, so I tend to see our current reality as a sort of sci-fi adventure rather than a comedy. Dystopias are a close relative of post-apocalypse SF. Along with Trump and the global slide to fascism, we also have the clear failure to stave off climate disaster, so it's "Don't Look Up" and "The Handmaid's Tale" combined.

[stylofone]

A good summary of the Kennedy thing. It reminds me of another sanity inversion by "skeptics" like Sam Harris promoting an Area 51-type mystery.

A skeptic, by those terms, is someone who questions what they are told. Crucially, a skeptic actually questions, as in seeks answers. A person who merely refuses to learn what can be known is not a skeptic, but rather an ignoramus; a person who raises questions but does not seek their answers is not a skeptic, but a bullshitter. A person who rejects empirical knowledge, who refuses the answers that exist while requesting ones more to their liking that flatter their preference for unfounded contrarian gibberish and conspiratorial paranoia, is not a skeptic. They're the exact opposite of that: a mark. A sucker. A credulous boob.

https://defector.com/what-the-fuck-is-a-vaccine-skeptic

[Phyrefly22]

If basic information is always already esoteric and unavailable, the ignoramus has no way of finding out. Those closest to Trump likely did not tell him or were ignoramuses themselves. If Trump would have known about the critical chloroquine (basically = hydroxychloroquine) time-window, he would likely have immediately promoted prophylaxis, just as was done with ivermectin in Uttar Pradesh (See "Killing Hydroxychloroquine," in RFK Jr., The Real Anthony Fauci). To understand the time-window, one must go back to the International Symposium @ Philadelphia, summer, 2000, to read Blau and Holmes' 229E coronavirus findings, which are reported here, published the following year:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11774468

Post-infection, if the chloroquine was administered within 8-10 hours post-infection, viral titers were drastically reduced. Otherwise, if administered later, the virus exponentially claimed the host's real estate.

[stylofone]

If basic information is always already esoteric and unavailable, the ignoramus has no way of finding out. Those closest to Trump likely did not tell him or were ignoramuses themselves. If Trump would have known about the critical chloroquine (basically = hydroxychloroquine) time-window, he would likely have immediately promoted prophylaxis, just as was done with ivermectin in Uttar Pradesh (See "Killing Hydroxychloroquine," in RFK Jr., The Real Anthony Fauci). To understand the time-window, one must go back to the International Symposium @ Philadelphia, summer, 2000, to read Blau and Holmes' 229E coronavirus findings, which are reported here, published the following year:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11774468

Post-infection, if the chloroquine was administered within 8-10 hours post-infection, viral titers were drastically reduced. Otherwise, if administered later, the virus exponentially claimed the host's real estate.

If I recall correctly, Trump DID promote hydroxychloroquine, and it was also found to be ineffective as an anti-covid medicine, as was ivermectin.

[Phyrefly22]

Yes. Though you were reading the dem media and not RFK Jr. Dismissing the Blau and Holmes study will always fail to reveal the scientific truth.

[two dogs]

If basic information is always already esoteric and unavailable, the ignoramus has no way of finding out. Those closest to Trump likely did not tell him or were ignoramuses themselves. If Trump would have known about the critical chloroquine (basically = hydroxychloroquine) time-window, he would likely have immediately promoted prophylaxis, just as was done with ivermectin in Uttar Pradesh (See "Killing Hydroxychloroquine," in RFK Jr., The Real Anthony Fauci). To understand the time-window, one must go back to the International Symposium @ Philadelphia, summer, 2000, to read Blau and Holmes' 229E coronavirus findings, which are reported here, published the following year:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11774468

Post-infection, if the chloroquine was administered within 8-10 hours post-infection, viral titers were drastically reduced. Otherwise, if administered later, the virus exponentially claimed the host's real estate.

I'm not sure that I understand your point?

The PubMed article you linked to doesn't have an abstract, and the title doesn't reference (hydroxy)chloroquine, so it wasn't at all helpful.

However, on doing my due diligence, I did find a PDF copy of that 2001 study, which states:

Incubation in chloroquine or bafilomycin Al before and during virus inoculation resulted in a decrease in viral titers when compared to untreated, inoculated cells. In contrast, when these drugs were added 8-12 hours post inoculation, there was no significant decrease in viral yields compared to untreated, inoculated cells. These results show that the lysosomotrophic drugs inhibit early at virus entry but at later times do not affect the release of virus.

The study was in vitro, using the Caco-2 cell line (an immortalized cell line of human colorectal adenocarcinoma cells), on human coronavirus 229E (HCoV-229E). That's one of the coronaviruses responsible for the common cold, not the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic!

[Phyrefly22]

Yes. Though you were reading the dem media and not RFK Jr. Dismissing the Blau and Holmes study will always fail to reveal the scientific truth. Furthermore, indeed there is an abstract. You simply did not click on it.

[two dogs]

Yes. Though you were reading the dem media and not RFK Jr. Dismissing the Blau and Holmes study will always fail to reveal the scientific truth. Furthermore, indeed there is an abstract. You simply did not click on it.

Which fuckin' part of this page do I have to click on to view the abstract?

[two dogs]

Yes. Though you were reading the dem media and not RFK Jr. Dismissing the Blau and Holmes study will always fail to reveal the scientific truth. Furthermore, indeed there is an abstract. You simply did not click on it.

What in the fuck is the "dem" media"?

And I didn't "dismiss" the Blau and Holmes study. I pointed out its irrelevance to the COVID-19 pandemic. And why, 20+ years after that study, are we all not taking chloroquine to stave off the common cold?

It seems that you wouldn't understand "scientific truth" if it bit you on the arse!