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Oz FedPoliceCo blinks, yawns, stretches and farts volubly.

Looks round and sees SovCits...
Acting Assistant Commissioner of the AFP’s Counter Terrorism and Special Investigations Command, Stephen Nutt, told the Herald the movement has recently been seen to “co-opt or overlap with patriot movements, conspiracy theories, anti-authoritarian and ethno-nationalist perspectives and the far-right”.

He said the pandemic led to people spending more time online and showing “increasing susceptibility to conspiracy theories due to the time of crisis and hardening of consensus ‘radical’ perspectives”.

Nutt said the AFP, alongside its domestic and international partners, were focused on “groups that may seek to breach legislation and move towards violence in support of any ideation”, adding the AFP’s Joint Counter Terrorism Team members were required to undergo training to understand and combat the threats of sovereign citizens.]
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stylofone wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:18 pm
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with inciting violence online.
Extremist Christian terrorists. It reminds me of ISIS social media specialists in Turkey or wherever they were, reaching out to their grooming targets in Lakemba, who were then motivated to go to Syria and commit atrocities.
And QLD Cops knew, well in advance.
"... the man grabbed firearms plus a bow and arrow … his name is Nathaniel Train … he is an ex-teacher from Walgett."

Sent to Queensland Police at 11:57am on December 20, 2021, this critical email from Goondiwindi council officer Andrew Leach revealed an unstable teacher had just committed several offences before going on the run in the state carrying weapons.

Even the name of a potential witness who could confirm the offender's disturbed state of mind and firearms possession was provided.

“Hope this helps,’’ Mr Leach signed off before hitting send on the email to a local police officer.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-22/ ... /103235148
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What's on in Wollongong, indeed.

Earlier... (AUG 2023):
A self-confessed sovereign citizen has been ordered to front court after he allegedly clashed with a Wollongong cop in Stanwell Tops.

Glen Short, 52, was driving on Lawrence Hargrave Drive on Monday, August 7 when he was pulled over by the highway patrol officer for a random breath test.

Short videoed the encounter, and later posted it to his Facebook page, as he badgered the officer and called him an "armed foreign agent".

"You didn't have the consent to even look up the details of that commercial contract to the RMS because you're a separate corporation," Short told the officer.

Short claimed he was "travelling" and not "driving" on the road, and was under the "global federal postal courts" jurisdiction.
https://www.illawarramercury.com.au/sto ... ngong-cop/

And now...
Police were forced to subdue a man with capsicum spray in the corridor of Wollongong courthouse after a large group of sovereign citizen supporters unleashed a verbal tirade against a magistrate.

https://www.illawarramercury.com.au/sto ... ourthouse/
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Updating Wollongong: One of old mate's cooker pals is calling for reinforcements to the courthouse for the afternoon.

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Cookers are making inroads into the National Party. The trend seems to going towards renewables more than covid, but the simmering Australian version of QAnon is also bubbling away, as they demand someone "expose the 28".

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/clim ... 5f3e8.html
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stylofone wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:18 am Cookers are making inroads into the National Party. The trend seems to going towards renewables more than covid, but the simmering Australian version of QAnon is also bubbling away, as they demand someone "expose the 28".

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/clim ... 5f3e8.html
I see somebody got Barnyard vertically-oriented again.

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It's HIV/AIDS now. Note that Rogan is paid hundreds of millions of dollars to promote this garbage.

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Strange hooey in a Toontown courtroom.
Kenneth Ray Kelley found guilty of speeding

A piano teacher fighting a speeding fine had his legal arguments dismissed after he failed to lodge the correct form in the weeks leading up to his trial.

Kenneth Ray Kelley was caught by a static speed camera doing 68kmh in a 60kmh zone at the intersection of Bridge Street and McDougall Street on January 8, 2023.

He took the matter to a trial in the Toowoomba Magistrates Court on Monday, where he represented himself.

The self-described ‘living man under the Australian Constitution was obstructionist from the outset, frustrating the court and the prosecution.

At first Kelley refused to enter a plea and was told by Magistrate Mark Howden that a plea of not guilty would be entered on his behalf.

He replied by saying, “I do not consent to that”.

Kelley went on to offer repeated objections to the submissions made by police prosecutor Chris Willson, chiefly a claim that under Common Law the police needed two eyewitnesses to secure a criminal conviction.

He argued the prosecution could not prove the traffic camera was accurate, that it had been tested by a qualified person, or that there were any witnesses to his driving on the day.

Kelley argued a photo captured by the traffic camera appeared to show three vehicles parked at the intersection and not moving at all.

Senior Constable Willson replied that Kelley had no grounds to challenge the accuracy of the evidence against him because he did not file the correct paperwork, namely, ‘Notice of Intention to Challenge the Instrument’, under Section 120 sub section 7 of the Traffic Management Act.

The court heard if the form had been filed on time then the police would have to call witnesses to give evidence about the camera’s accuracy.

Kelley said he filed a three-page letter in September 2023 where he asked for certification that the device was accurate, that it was used in accordance with operators manual, and the operator adhered to all guidelines for use in Queensland

However, the objections were not in the correct form, a copy of which Snr Constable Willson said was provided to Kelley when he initially signalled that he would fight the fine.

“The law says, under Subsection 120, a notice must … be in the approved form,” Mr Howden said.

“It is not by a personal letter, the legislation is very specific.”

Kelley replied that he was unaware of the form and had not read Subsection 120 of the Traffic Management Act.

“It is the fundamental law that applies in this case,” Mr Howden said.

“If you have not read it then how would you know what you had to comply with, that is why I asked you at the beginning of the trial if you had received any legal advice.

“The first thing a solicitor would have told you, is that you have to file this document if you want to challenge the accuracy of the equipment.”

Kelley went on to accuse the police of withholding information and of acting outside their jurisdiction.

At one point he accused the police of extortion, by sending him a speeding fine and threatening further penalty if he did not pay up.

These arguments were not accepted.

Magistrate Howden found Kelley guilty of speeding and ordered that he pay this initial $287 plus $107 in court cost.

The conviction was recorded.

Speaking outside the court, Kelley vowed to appeal the decision.

“What happened in there, common law tells us there needs to be two witnesses, Christ Jesus backed it up and it was set in place in Deuteronomy,” he said.
Interesting idea about the history and basis of common law, yes?
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QAnonnery can be fatal.
A mother's tragic decision, fueled by QAnon conspiracy theories, led to the deaths of her 13-year-old son and sister in the remote Colorado wilderness. Rebecca Vance, believing lies about a "Great Reset" plot by elites to control the world, fled her home with her son Talon and sister Christine to live off the grid at a campsite outside Gunnison.

From Axios:
In the days before his family moved to live off the grid in the Colorado wilderness, 13-year-old Talon Vance told his online gaming friends goodbye.

"NOOO COME BACK," the username Fluffy wrote. "Please I will give anything for you to come back," another responded.

The 13-year-old who loved video games and computers transcribed the messages over 24 pages in a journal before his family left Colorado Springs for the remote Gold Creek campground outside Gunnison — a move prompted by his mother's conspiratorial fears about global elites and the pandemic.



Rebecca Vance, Talon's mother, and his aunt, Christine, left their home in August 2022, refusing help and declining to share their destination with family, saying only they wanted to live off the grid. They landed in the woods outside the campground at 9,900 feet, where winter came early and ran cold.

No one knew where they disappeared until their bodies were found in July 2023 by a hiker who described the scene as an old squatter's settlement with "a mummy" lying in the middle. Two more bodies were found inside a tent.
As reported in Outside and New York Magazine, the trio was woefully unprepared for the harsh conditions, bringing only basic supplies like a cheap tent and sleeping bags. Talon's journal, found near his body, revealed his mother's reliance on him to learn wilderness skills despite his young age. "Side note: I did the trucker's hitch first try!!" he wrote enthusiastically.

The family survived on limited rations until their car was towed in November, leaving them stranded. Investigators believe Talon likely perished first, his body moved outside the tent by his mother and aunt before they succumbed to malnutrition and hypothermia. Talon's corpse weighed a mere 40 pounds when discovered.

Do you think the people who concocted QAnon and the grifters who profit from it care about what happened to this family?
https://boingboing.net/2024/03/21/mothe ... rness.html
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(Probable) Mayor-Elect Tinfoilhatter, and the twisted, muddy, path to power.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... lles-mayor
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