Yeah one of the really interesting points it does make is that detractors of EV's almost always use the full impact of the cars original, mining, manufacture, electric generation cost, environmental impact and etc, and then compare it to ICE cars without taking into account the environmental impact of oil drilling and transport, refining etc, usually just using the manufacture impact and the fuel use.joele wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:44 pmYeah some advances have already dated the article but as you say only for the better.. I.e. LFP batteries like BYD make have no nickel or cobalt at all and last even longer than those lithium cobalt batteries. Improving two of the points re longevity and cobalt mining.stevebrooks wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:17 pmso it relies on data purely from Li-ion batteries currently in use, so as battery technology advances these myths will become ever more irrelevant;
Good article overall though, some good ammunition in it![]()
My personal opinion is that the changeover to full EV will actually happen sooner than the governments are planning, one of the mistakes governments always make is to think they are in control of what are disruptive technology changes and that they can set the agenda. The penetration of EV's into societies is already advancing ahead of predictions,it wouldn't surprise me if in 5 years the fossil fuel industry was all but collapsed. It always brings to mind Neil deGrasse Tyson's comment when questioned about the disastrous impacts changing all cars over to EV's would have on society, job losses, industry collapses etc.
What he said was essentially this, all my paraphrasing because I can't be bothered hunting out the exact text; In the late 1800's early 1900's the horse industry was an entire economy, supporting millions of workers, there were more horses per person in the US than there were people, farriers, coach makers, stables, blacksmiths, in fact entire towns existed just around stage coach stops, children walked around following coaches in cities to pick up horse crap and so many etc's it's probably impossible to list them all here, it's penetration into society was huge. In 10 years that entire horse based economy just vanished, replaced by motor cars. No-one at the time cars first appeared would in their wildest imaginations have predicted such an outcome, it would have been horrifying to them, but we are still here. Horses are still here to, but they are an expensive hobby, a niche industry in all western countries.
In essence change, when society has decided that change is necessary by whatever method or magic it uses, will happen no matter what industry leaders think or want, no matter what governments plan or decide, and it will happen at the rate the people move, they're just along for the ride, we're all just along for the ride! I think it will happen faster than any predictions or plans, whether it's in time to prevent catastrophic global warming, well that's another subject altogether!